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Post by coolangot on Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:42 pm

mga paps...

gusto ko sana bumuo ng SS para pang bike commute.. masyado mabigat ang mountain bike ko pang bike commute, and pang trails ko na lang sana yun gagamitin. Tska napasin ko hindi naman ako gumagamit ng shifters masyado sa route ko.

Matagal ko na din gustong simulan tong SS project na ito, pero hindi ko alam kung paano simulan. May wheelset na ako and some vbrakes. I don't know kung anong frame ang pipiliin or how an SS works..

Thanks!

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Post by sup on Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:19 pm

mr cool, depende sa budget mo sir!

personally, parang mas mura kung bili ka na lang ng oldschool lugged (kahit hi-ten) na road bike. naka horizontal dropouts na kaya pwede na rin i-ss. may nakita ako lugged na frame na road bike, 6.5K sa pmtb. lalang.. What a Face

unang tanong: budget for the total build?

i'm thinking na dadalhin mo rin 'tong bike na 'to offroad at ginagawa mo lang excuse yung commute. hehehe! to get your bike going, i think you would need less than 10K. depende na lang talaga sa budget.

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Post by Alphabolt on Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:29 pm

coolA bro, d ba matagal ka na nagbibike? bought an item ata from you before (helmet ata)...DHer ka d ba?

anyway back on topic...I like riding SS but ingat lang pls sa SS riding sa streets of Manila. Kasi..depending on your gear combo..sometimes mahirap mag sprint pag SS

Happened to me once ..twas late night na ..on my way home from a meeting with forum mods..I saw the traffic light turn yellow na ..eh nasa 1/4 na ako ng intersection ...ayun...padyak! dali! Im not a slow sprinter but alas! the gear combo failed me and I overspun..my bike was too slow for comfort...meron naunang jeep na pa left turn that missed me by ummm about 6 inches!cyclops

lesson learned : ride ss but use a better gear suited for sprinting sa streets ..maybe a 34 x 16 ok

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Post by sup on Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:54 pm

ay oo.. yun din pala.. choose your gearing wisely. since you have a favorite gear already, use that one on your ss bike. horror yung kay alphabolt na experience.

lui also has some experience bike commuting on ss. last i heard, he already converted it back to geared. Smile

jaymz also bike commutes his ss, to test his set-up. got a text from him a while ago and i think he's getting there. Smile

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Post by coolangot on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:07 pm

Sir Alphabolt, yup tagal na akong nagbibike- pero hindi ako yung nagDH- di din ako yung binilhan mo ng helmet- ikaw yung binilhan ko nung laptop bag ( buo pa sya ngayon!)

Anyway, yun yung hindi ko maintindihan sa SS- ano ba ang proper combination ng gears na kailangan ko? I don't really do sprints since puro shortcut sa subdivisions ang dinadaanan ko (right now at least). The others are the chain, dropouts, tensioner....

Yeah, a budget of 10k perhaps is ok na.

Pwede ko ring dalhin offroad- pero tska na yun.. hehehe

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Post by maxbuwaya on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:22 pm

bumuo ako ng commuter nuon 44 x 16 pang BMX gamit ko less than 7k gastos ko

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Post by coolangot on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:47 pm

Max, yoko ng BMX ( no offense sa mga nagBMX)

or you meant gears ng BMX ginamit mo?

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Post by king on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:54 pm

kung road commuter hinde puede ang mtb gearing (32x 16 or 18 ). it's just too light and too slow. gamit ko dati 42x16 or 18


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Post by jaymz on Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:29 am

sup wrote:jaymz also bike commutes his ss, to test his set-up. got a text from him a while ago and i think he's getting there. Smile

i just bought a halflink chain from raven/ben yesterday & set-it up last night... tight mofo, i say! What a Face pero need pa rin ng tensioner... tongue
i'm using my ss for bike commuting to work since i built him (mr. poverty What a Face )...
i'm using 32x18 gearing...
i did 'bring' it once sa trail... sa shotgun... i say 'bring', kasi most part i akay my bike... lol! may kabyos kasi... lui, fattire, sockman, & bri ang mga witness ko...
sa uphill lang naman pag pwersado na yung drivetrain... sa rolling oks naman...

now, that i checked the chainline & got a tighter chain...sana wala nang kabyos. Evil or Very Mad

aldous, loko ka! mas una ka pang member sa akin sa proboards! lol!
if for city riding lang... i suggest the 44x16 or 44x18 combo... Wink
pero kung for trail also, use a 32t chainring...

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Post by coolangot on Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:16 pm

Wala kasi ako maintindihan sa mga gearing combination na yan.. basta shift up shift down lang.

Anyway, sa frame naman- what should I be looking for? Horizontal dropouts?

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Post by jaymz on Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:21 pm

aldous,

remember joey-alienscream's SS sa ToF?

yun! da bomb sputnik frame! horizontal dropout para wala nang tensioner... Twisted Evil

kaya lang baka ayaw mo nun... parang bmx ang geometry nun... Shocked

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Post by coolangot on Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:57 pm

Jaymz,

yep, mahirap ata maghanap ng ganung frame.. tanungin ko si Joey

thanks

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Post by maxbuwaya on Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:50 pm

coolangot wrote:Max, yoko ng BMX ( no offense sa mga nagBMX)

or you meant gears ng BMX ginamit mo?

pang BMX ang drivetrain

i used screw type hubs then paired it with a good Sprocket and BMX chain.

i used XC frame for this

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Post by maxbuwaya on Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:36 pm

share ko lang unang SS drivetrain ko


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Post by Bayot on Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:11 pm

ok naman bmx ah...


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Post by maxbuwaya on Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:01 pm

Ito mukhang ok

one of the best tensioner invented i guess the design is simple, only the roller is the moving part at kasya lahat ng uri ng kadena.

And best of all, it wont rip the wallet

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Post by Tolits on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:57 am

max, anong tensioner yan..how much?

btw, i started slowly building my own ss...what is the better all rounder, 32 x 16 or 32 x 18?


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Post by jaymz on Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:08 pm

t*n*n*! wag ka na mag-SS tolits!
parang awa mo na!!!
Razz drunken cheers lol!

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Post by Tolits on Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:36 pm

sayang lang frame sa bahay kung hindi magagamit..curious lang ako..gusto ko rin ma-experience. Smile

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Post by king on Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:56 pm

tolits sa tingin ko puede ka mag 16. mabibitin ka din sa 18 since palaging ka bike-all-the-way.

Tolits wrote:max, anong tensioner yan..how much?

btw, i started slowly building my own ss...what is the better all rounder, 32 x 16 or 32 x 18?

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Post by sup on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:00 pm

tingin ko nga mas sulit sayo tolits ang 16.. ayus! Very Happy

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Post by Tolits on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:33 pm

16? hmm...pero pag-dating sa trail mahihimatay ako. Very Happy

si king nung nag-licao naka double chainring eh kaya di ko na tatanungin hehe!

sup, ano yung gamit mo nung sta. inez tayo?

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Post by sup on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:37 pm

18 gamit ko nun.. pero depende talaga sa'yo at kung saan mo gagamitin. 18 is the safest bet. try mo lang for a few rides tapos palitan mo 16.

lahat naman makunat pagdating sa ahon.. Smile

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Post by Tolits on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:41 pm

thanks, sup...18 it is. Smile

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Post by maxbuwaya on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm

Tolits wrote:max, anong tensioner yan..how much?

btw, i started slowly building my own ss...what is the better all rounder, 32 x 16 or 32 x 18?

da bomb. RL -4. Its in their website. P650 Kay Decimal Quaipo kay Paulina mga P800 (Baka makatawad ka pa)


Dati nagbuo ako ng 16T lang sobrang nangamote ako! (Dati kasi ang Dabomb isang ngipin lang Kasama sa single speed kit nila)

Ngayon itong binuo ko may dalawang kasamang dalawa na (da bomb) 16T and 18T, so far 18T ang gamit ko mukhang mas may laban sa akyatan, 16 halos wala talaga. This coming TOF 16T kinabit ko.

Try mo din nga pala fire eye tatlong gears ang kasama, mas mura din yata sa da bomb.

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Post by jaymz on Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:34 am

odie,

2 lang rin kasama na cog ng fireeye...

16/18T mine... 18t nakakabit. Wink

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Post by ryanusuke on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:49 am

jaymz wrote:odie,

2 lang rin kasama na cog ng fireeye...

16/18T mine... 18t nakakabit. Wink

Koyang jaymz, hawmats yung fireye? Balak ko na upgrade cogs ko sa totoong pang SS...

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Post by king on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:52 pm

tolits yung 32x16 lang gamit ko sa licao. kaya naman kasi walang mahahabang ahon at madaming pahinga

Tolits wrote:16? hmm...pero pag-dating sa trail mahihimatay ako. Very Happy

si king nung nag-licao naka double chainring eh kaya di ko na tatanungin hehe!

sup, ano yung gamit mo nung sta. inez tayo?

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Post by hector on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:11 pm

mga sir's pano ba i convert ang shimano xt cranks to a single chainring lang? kailangan ko pa ba ng bashring? or mga washers na lang? whats the size kaya ng washer na kailangan ko? tnx Very Happy

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Post by sup on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:35 pm

hi hector. you have 3 options: bashring, spacer or short chainring bolts. cleanest look is the chainring bolt. you could ask your favorite bikeshop if they have these Smile

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