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Post by coilerblue on Fri May 15, 2009 2:09 pm

thanks markweir...

pare paano nga pala yung tamang pag i stock ng gulong? itatago ko lang yung minions ko...

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Post by DarKmaN on Fri May 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Ang ayoko na NN kasi eh..2.25 pero mas maliit pa sa Nevs na 2.1 folding..hehehe...

Tapos gaya nga ng nasabi niyo ang nipis sobra ng sidewalls...

at yung presyo ayaw ko din...hehehe.
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by DarKmaN on Fri May 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Ilang years mo tatago fafa coiler? hanggang maging classic? ahehehe
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by coilerblue on Fri May 15, 2009 2:17 pm

gagamitin din syempre, fafa julien, itatago lang, mahirap mag hanap nun hehehe

minimilyahan kasi ako ni esso dito sa cavite trail tas kay craw nababagalan sa kin,
kaya magpapalit muna ako ng mas maliit na dia. na gulong hehehe Very Happy
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by islaw on Fri May 15, 2009 6:47 pm

@ mark: dunno the name of the shop e, diko din alam kung maxpro or the other type. pero folding bead. malamang andun na si julien ngayon.hahahha.
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Post by yetiman on Fri May 15, 2009 11:24 pm

I'm not a fan of maxxis...nevegals maganda kaso sobrang kapit , minsan di mo kailangan ang sobra kasi namamatay ang momentum mo.

I like the michelins and intense kaso di praktical ang presyo . Yung DH 24 or 32 tread pattern ng mich hanep! May mga light tires sila na pde

pang-ahon kaso mabilis talaga maubos. Yung syncros tires are good also , they are made by kenda too.

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Post by flipnidaho on Sat May 16, 2009 9:47 pm

I've used most of the tires you've tried... Recently, I've been into:
Schwalbe Big Betty 2.4 for the front. Stiffer sidewalls than the Kendas and rolls quite a bit faster (but not light at around 900 grams).
Kenda Nevegal 2.35 DTC in the rear. Less wear and rolls faster than the Stick-E versions and quite light at sub 700 grams.

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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by dayuhan on Sun May 17, 2009 9:37 am

My personal favorite combination is a Nevegal 2.1 on the back and a Minion DHF 2.35 on the front. I ride a wide variety of surfaces and gradients, wet and dry, and this just seems to work. I've tried bigger, and I feel like the penalty in terms of weight and resistance is not worth the (minimal) gain.

If you're loading tires like the Minion or the bigger Nevegals onto rims like the DT 4.2 or the Mavic 717, that should be a bit of a mismatch alert: either you have too much tire or too little rim.


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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by evs on Sun May 17, 2009 1:20 pm

markweir wrote:@evs: ok ba yung small block 8 for rear? kala ko pang xc lang. di ba nag slide out on moist loam (tagaytay) and moist clay (maarat)? of course useless in mud, but i hate mud. if so, fast rolling lightweight tire yun!

1. if u want fast rolling rear tire.. eto yon..
2. yep it will slide out s moist loam but nothing to worry.. kasama s design yon.. masanay lng u.. actually makapit sya..
3. yez light weight.. for me i go for tubeless kasi iba yong compound..

fyi, ang traction wala s likod its all in the front..
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by motmot817 on Mon May 18, 2009 11:44 am

try schwalbe fat albert. 2.4 cya pero mukang 2.3 lang. ok naman kaso medyo pricey.

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Post by aquifer on Wed May 20, 2009 12:17 pm

Schwalbahi talaga ang presyo ng mga schwalbe!!! Calling Koya Yukon!!! Rocketron where are you?
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by islaw on Mon May 25, 2009 10:36 am

dumaan ako dun sa shop sa pag asa qc kahapon na may minions na binebenta, may 6 pcs pa.

the catch.... nampooch..... 1.4k isa. tubeless version. meron din high roller na folding.

tawaran nyo na lang.

for the v brake SS RIDERS. meron din dun 1 set of single digit v brakes ng avid paired with sd7 levers. 1.3k
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by markweir on Tue May 26, 2009 7:25 pm

thanks everyone. will give the minion dhf and high roller a try. otherwise was thinking of spesh eskar and captain, but put off by lack of transition knobs on eskar and thin sidewalls on captain. Nice and light for tubeless tho, w low rr.

@islaw, thanks for the heads up, puntahan ko yung bike shop sa pag-asa, could you tell mehow to get there from mindanao avenue? sorry di ko kabisado yung lugar...

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Post by islaw on Tue May 26, 2009 10:54 pm

@ mark: from trinoma take mindanao ave. towards congressional ave. (between mcdo and veterans golf course) barangay pag asa is on the left side of mindanao ave. u-turn ka after the proj.6 entry. land mark mo is BPI mindanao ave. cor. pag asa. it's diagonally across BPI pag nasa pag asa ka na. pagkatapos ng talyer ng benz at bmw.

dalawang bike shop yun na magkatabi, yung first shop ang nagtitinda nung minions and high rollers. nasa lower right portion nung glass panel ng shop pag pasok mo. medyo magulo kasi yung shop e, puro entry level parts kaya mahirap makita yung tires.

pero well versed naman yung mechanic kaya alam nya yung tire brand and model.

sana naintindihan mo pag explain ko ng directions. enjoy the tires! yan gamit ko nun sa FS ko e. great tires!
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by markweir on Wed May 27, 2009 12:55 pm

@islaw, salamat! good directions, will check it out tomorrow.

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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by DarKmaN on Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:43 am

naka pag hoard nako ng minions..hehehe
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Post by righteous one on Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:51 pm

darkman, your minions, 3C???

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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by DarKmaN on Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:08 pm

No sir..walang 2.35 size na 3C compound ang Minions according to the Maxxis website..2.5 at 2.7 lang!
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by duckel on Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:58 am

when i still have my FS i use WTB weirwolf, front and rear. for me it grips a lot especially in ruts and uneven trail and roots in trail but mud also stick to it like hell. ang hirap tanggalin. i have 2.1 and 2.3 (folding and non folding)

haven't tried many tires but i also like the nevegals 2.3.
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Post by eatsrocksnmud on Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:12 pm

ayon sa mga lumulusong na kasamahan namin: minion at nevegal ang mga kumakapit na mabuti. sang-ayon rin ako sa kuro nila (kahit na malimit ako mamisikleta). piliin na lang ang laki/size ng gulong ayon sa lakas at galing/skill sa mga daang technical.

walang ginagalang na gulong ang basang daan/trail lalo na kung malumot at puro ugat. sa aking karanasan, ang Nokian Gazzalodi ay madulas sa basa (pero hindi naman amoy isda hahaha/), ito ay nalaman ng bakulaw sa masakit na paraan.

nasubukan ko gamitin sa likuran ang WTB Timberwolf 2.3 at makapit sya sa karamihang daan tulad ng putik, bato, at mga bulok na dahon. malambot lang ang kaniyang mga ngipin/knobbies kaya may kaunting sayaw ang gulong na hindi naman nakaka-semplang

may nasubukan akong pang-harap na DMR(???) na ang ngipin ay parang waffle at bilugin (radial/slick contour) ang gilid nito, kamukha nya ang WetScream. nakakapagtaka ang kapit nito sa alikabok at mga basang bato

isa lang masasabi ko sa mga gomang ito: mahal silang lahat. pero ang pagbibisikleta ay isang bisyo at ang bisyo ay pinagbubuhusan ng oras at pera. kung ang ladies drink ay hindi tinatawaran, ang gulong ng bisikleta pa kaya? hahaha
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Post by markweir on Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:05 pm

The shop referred to by Isaw (thanks again!) is selling minions, downhill version (wire bead, 2 ply, 2.5). hi roller is AM version, 2.35 folding, kaya lang UST version, so medyo mabigat at 890g. Sticker price is 3000 on the minions and 2000 for the hi rollers.

My objective in changing tires was to find something that rolled faster and climbed better than my 2.35 nevegals, but that would provide comparable performance downhill.

The Minion/Hi Roller combo seemed to fit the bill, but there is too much of a weight penalty for the models available at the bike shop - 1300g and 890g respectively! They certainly would climb worse than the nevs, even if they rolled better.

Now thinking of keeping the nevegal on the front, and swapping the more worn out rear with a small block 8, though concerned about sidewall durability (I run a ghetto tubeless setup - tubeless with regular rims and tires).

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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by evs on Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:22 pm

markweir wrote:The shop referred to by Isaw (thanks again!) is selling minions, downhill version (wire bead, 2 ply, 2.5). hi roller is AM version, 2.35 folding, kaya lang UST version, so medyo mabigat at 890g. Sticker price is 3000 on the minions and 2000 for the hi rollers.

My objective in changing tires was to find something that rolled faster and climbed better than my 2.35 nevegals, but that would provide comparable performance downhill.

The Minion/Hi Roller combo seemed to fit the bill, but there is too much of a weight penalty for the models available at the bike shop - 1300g and 890g respectively! They certainly would climb worse than the nevs, even if they rolled better.

Now thinking of keeping the nevegal on the front, and swapping the more worn out rear with a small block 8, though concerned about sidewall durability (I run a ghetto tubeless setup - tubeless with regular rims and tires).

may 2 klaseng minion, front @ rear, ano yong nakita mong gulong na ang size eh 2.5 2ply? overpriced kahit n 3C p yon..

kung ang hanap mo fast rolling tire, i suggest get the hiroller 2.35 single ply wired, available s endless 850petot.. lagay mo s harap.. then yong gamit mong lumang gulong eh lagay mo s likod until wornout.. next option mo n yong small block 8 pagnapudpod padyak yang lumang gulong mo..
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Re: Best AM/light DH tire for our conditions

Post by jaymz on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:06 am

sana meron pa nito si cho ....



even 1pc lang... para lang for my front end... Wink

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Post by ATO on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:55 am

syncros BHT?
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Post by jaymz on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:56 am

point n chute lang fafa ato... Wink

hhhmmm... pero mukhang mas ok ang BHT ah!



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