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Post by skamper on Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:17 am

pasali na din po sa tanong... medyo OT pero related naman po (ata)

kumpleto na po ang bike ko... and im planing to go SS... ang kulang ko nal ang po is
CRANKS
COGS
TENSIONER
CHAIN
ayan na lang po ang kulang at tatakbo na ang mumurahin kong bike.. ang tanong ko po is kung ano ang dapat kong bilhin na Single crank at single cog? at kelangan ko pa po ba ng tensioner dalhin vision pursuit frame ang gamit ko? may kinalaman pa po ba ang chain na gagamitin ko? 9 speed po kasi ang nabili kong chain. may tendency po ba na makalas ang chain ko kapag walang tensioner or yung parang tensioner na kinakabit sa cranks din? maraming maraming salamat po sa makakasagot ng aking mga katanungan!

Sana po yung mga irecomend nyong parts yung mura lang pero matibay po! 2k po ang budget ko kada part na nasabi ko po! salamat ulit

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Post by jaymz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:58 am

CRANKS - triple chainring crankset can be used... throw away the biggest & granny chainrings... buy spacers for the bolts or invest on a single-chainring specific bolt

COGS - go da bomb 9-1 conversion kit, surly, or fireeye ssk... i think MOB now market a SSK...

TENSIONER - (the ones that attach to the dropout, not near the crank) da bomb tensioners.... surly.... fireeye the spur...
add: there is a tensioner that you attach near your crank, but it's not available locally... (or i'm mistaken)

CHAIN - you can use your 9-speed chain... but if you're using fireeye ssk, better get a SS or bmx chain...

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Post by skamper on Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:42 pm

thank you po sa quick reply!!! another question po! bakit kelangan 9 speed chain?? kelangan po ba 9speed chain at SS specific chain??

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Post by sup on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:13 pm

hindi naman. kung ano meron ka chain sa bahay, yun ang gamitin mo. 9 or 8 or 7 speed chain, pwede. Ang importante yung chain line. mas malapad ang 8 o 7 (or ss specific) speed chains.

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Post by jaymz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:19 pm

skamper,

sa da bomb kasi...
same ang teeth profile with 9speed cogs... kaya pwede ang 9speed chain.

for fireeye,

profiled ang cog for ss-chain specifically...

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Post by Tolits on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:24 pm

ako rin may tanong...kailangan ba na yung part ng hub (what do you call that part/shell kung saan kinakabit yung cog) eh bakal...hindi kaya kung aluminum eh ma-strip yun ng SS cog?

naka-bili na ako hubset na steel yung part pero nabibigatan ako..naiisip ko palitan ng mas medyo magaan.

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Post by jaymz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:29 pm

ano hub mo lito?
shimano?

hub ko kasi is ringlé... aluminum naman ang attachment ng cog...
pero it's not an ss-specific hub... pang 8/9-speed ang gamit ko.

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Post by Tolits on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:37 pm

novatec...ito rin yata yung available dito as rebadged vision 360..hebigat lalo na yung pang likod.

naiisip ko kasi ang nipis pala ng cog..kung nagiisa lang sya, baka kako masira kung aluminum yung part na kinakabitan.

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Post by sup on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:41 pm

Tolits, aluminum ba yung sa mga shimano na paralux? Tingin ko hindi naman masira kung aluminum. PERO mina-market ng surly at iba pang ss-specific cog manufacturer ang mas malapad na base ng cog. Para daw hindi excessive ang wear ng cog sa.. dun sa kinakabitan ng cog sa hub. syet, ano nga pala tawag dun? (teka, google ko)

freehub!

"This width also prevents it from ruining the freehub body as a result of digging grooves into it like skinny stamped cogs have a tendency to do." - Surly site (http://surlybikes.com/parts/trackcogs_pop.html)

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Post by jaymz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:45 pm

sa fireeye cog, wala naman akong takot baka ma-strip yung freewheel outer shell...
makapal ang bakal ng fireeye cog...
sa da bomb parang manipis...

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Post by Tolits on Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:54 pm

sup wrote:Tolits, aluminum ba yung sa mga shimano na paralux? Tingin ko hindi naman masira kung aluminum. PERO mina-market ng surly at iba pang ss-specific cog manufacturer ang mas malapad na base ng cog. Para daw hindi excessive ang wear ng cog sa.. dun sa kinakabitan ng cog sa hub. syet, ano nga pala tawag dun? (teka, google ko)

freehub!

"This width also prevents it from ruining the freehub body as a result of digging grooves into it like skinny stamped cogs have a tendency to do." - Surly site ([url=http://surlybikes.com/parts/trackcogs_pop.html)

parang yung stx ko dati na parallax, steel eh...ayun, freehub pala tawag dun hehe!

honga kita ko nga sa mga pics makapal yung surly...so meron pala talagang possiblity na masira pag aluminum pag medyo manipis.

salamas, sup.


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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by Tolits on Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:04 pm

jaymz wrote:sa fireeye cog, wala naman akong takot baka ma-strip yung freewheel outer shell...
makapal ang bakal ng fireeye cog...
sa da bomb parang manipis...

honga..saka hindi ko naman nakikitang ginagamit mo, paano mai-strip bwahahaha!

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Post by jaymz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:07 pm

sagasaan kaya kita ng SS sa caniogan....bweheheheheheh... bom

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by sup on Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:18 pm

Sa totoo lang, wala pa ako naririnig na nasiraan ng freehub sa mga local SSers... kaya yan!

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by Tolits on Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:33 pm

sup wrote:Sa totoo lang, wala pa ako naririnig na nasiraan ng freehub sa mga local SSers... kaya yan!

ayun naman pala...pero malapit na sup na may mabilataan ka...pag ginamit na ni jaime yung SS nya LOL!

hmm..kung ako naman magde-design nyan...lalagyan ko yan ng device na in such way hindi pwedeng mag move yung cog independent of the spacers..para medyo ma-distribute yung pwersa..kaya ito, hindi ako naging engineer.

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Post by sup on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:03 pm

mas konti yung spacer dapat. chris king SS-specific hubs ang solusyon! o kaya, awitan natin yung hub ni thops What a Face

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by Bayot on Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:01 pm

mga koya, may bagong dabam na SSK, mas astig yung dating po. mas mataba yung cog. tama ba? yun

nas sight ko lang gamit ng frendster ko yung bike ng asawa ko...pinatesting para mabenta Razz



sorry OT ako...

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Post by Ako on Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:00 pm

off topic:

bayot:

magkano/saan mo nabili spinergy xaero lite (tama ba?) wheelset? ok ba performance? thanks. i like.

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Post by Bayot on Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:31 pm

magaan, di bagay sa kababuyan ko, baka magiba...

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by skamper on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:16 am

huwaw!!! nakakaexcite amp! hehehehe! magkano ba da bomb na SS conversion kit? mas trip ko yun kasi alam ko mas mura yun eh! hehehehehe!! saka 9speed ang chain na andito ehehehehe

isa pang tanong ng mangmang!
dati kasi yung rig ko ginawa kong SS. tinanggal ko lang yung RD at FD ko. ok naman. ang problema ko eh yung chain ko napakahigpit! hindi ko maipedal ng pabaliktad yung cranks ko. kapag nagdagdag naman ako ng isang chain link eh napaka luwag naman... 8 speed chain gamit ko nun. 32 / tapos yung cog ko yung 3rd gear yun ng 8 speed nilipat ko lang sa gitna para pumantay yung chain line. as said above.. napaka higpit or ang luwag ng chain... kapag nag SS conversion kit na ba ako tapos may tensioner eh hindi na mangyayari sakin yun???

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by skamper on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:23 am

isa pa palang tanong

mga bossing kapag may conversion kit na ba ako... pwede ba ako kumuha ng kahit anung cogs mula sa cogset ko???

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Re: planning to go SS! tulong!

Post by Tolits on Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:37 pm

skamper wrote:isa pa palang tanong

mga bossing kapag may conversion kit na ba ako... pwede ba ako kumuha ng kahit anung cogs mula sa cogset ko???

pards, alam ko most conversion kit kasama na yung cog sa sa package..sa fireeye dalawang cogs yata ang kasama...mamimili ka sa no of teeth.

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Post by king on Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:41 pm

jaymz, walang problema sa fireye-type cogs gumamit ng 8 or 9 speed chain. ganun gamit ko ever since. no problems.

jaymz wrote:skamper,

for fireeye,

profiled ang cog for ss-chain specifically...

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Post by Bayot on Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:52 pm

king,
tingnan mo sa alterra yungbagong kit ng dabomb, mas cute

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Post by king on Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:57 pm

onga e pero parang bumigat lang yung spacers kasi kinapalan lang nila. ok na ako sa dati.

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Post by jaymz on Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:10 pm

king wrote:jaymz, walang problema sa fireye-type cogs gumamit ng 8 or 9 speed chain. ganun gamit ko ever since. no problems.

jaymz wrote:skamper,

for fireeye,

profiled ang cog for ss-chain specifically...

sorry king... pero kagaya what they posted sa site nila...

Cog Options: 12t and 13t cogs (for single speed chains only)
14t and 16t cogs (for single speed chains only)
16t and 18t cogs (for single speed chains only)

yung ssk ko, di kasya ang 9speed chain...

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Post by Tolits on Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:13 pm

peke yung nabili ni king..baka ginupit na yero lang.

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Post by skamper on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:06 pm

jaymz wrote:
king wrote:jaymz, walang problema sa fireye-type cogs gumamit ng 8 or 9 speed chain. ganun gamit ko ever since. no problems.

jaymz wrote:skamper,

for fireeye,

profiled ang cog for ss-chain specifically...

sorry king... pero kagaya what they posted sa site nila...

Cog Options: 12t and 13t cogs (for single speed chains only)
14t and 16t cogs (for single speed chains only)
16t and 18t cogs (for single speed chains only)

yung ssk ko, di kasya ang 9speed chain...

sir u mean kung fire eye ang kukunin ko kelangan ko talaga yung SS specific chain? para sa inyo po ano ang pinaka mabigat na gear for urban lang naman kasi. d ko kaya malamang ipang trails ang SS kasi! hehehehehe and sa tingin nyo po ba yung alivio na cranks ok lang pang SS???

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Post by king on Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:26 pm

hassle yun a. yung mga akin (16 & 18T) generic lang galing kay westcoastbo dati. gamit ko lang mga tirang IG or HG chains.
baka iba yung sa fire eye.




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Post by skamper on Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:16 am

aniother question! heheheeh ano po yung ramped? ano po difference?

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